Dr. Orly Taitz Vindicated

Sheriff Arpaio’s ‘Cold Case Posse’ has released its findings on the April 2011 Birth Certificate posted as a PDF on whitehouse.gov. I had the privilege of being asked by Dr. Jerome Corsi to forward my legal research and Adobe Illustrator file on Obama’s ‘citizenship at birth’ to Detective Michael Zullo, who headed the ‘Cold Case Posse’ investigation.

Today, Dr. Taitz sent an email  notice to her followers and the press that she was ‘Vindicated.’ I agree. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/watch-live-sheriff-arpaio-obama-birth-certificate-press-conference/

Dr. Orly Taitz Vindicated

Perhaps further investigation will acknowledge the FACT that the whitehouse.gov Birth Certificate was fabricated in Adobe Illustrator in order to kybosh sales and promotion of Dr. Corsi’s book release the following month, ‘Where’s the Birth Certificate.’

In addition, the document and further analysis will show that Barack Hussein Obama was illegitimate, not only at birth but as president; and this will aid in the deconstruction and reversal of his hundreds of Executive Orders.

JUST FOR FUN

Below is a photo with various Obama birth documents followed by multiple choice questions. Your job is to match the photo with the description, and comment whether ‘Real’ or ‘Unreal,’ that determination based on the Evidentiary Value of the Document in a Court of Law.

birth-certificate-long-form-art  A

BO-Birth-Cert1-327x450B

kenyandocument C

COLB D

SeptBirthCertificateLarge E

___  Forged document, fabricated in Adobe Photoshop

___  Facsimile of Hawaii form creating a Birth Certification for a Child Born Out-of-State, signed by Obama’s Hawaiian grandmother

___ Official document, signed and sealed by government official, of Obama birth data from original certificate

___ Database printout of birth data from Hawaii birth registration

___ Photocopy of original birth certificate

 

34 responses to “Dr. Orly Taitz Vindicated”

  1. Dr. Conspiracy Avatar
    Dr. Conspiracy

    The first “certificate” appears to be a collage of layers from Obama’s long form birth certificate PDF. The underlying document is an “Official document, signed and sealed by government official, of Obama birth data from original certificate.”

    The second is a real paper document that appears to have been created in Microsoft Word (based on font and letter spacing) printed, then stamped and photographed (it was also available in a scanned version). The convicted felon who created it claimed he got it in Kenya, and it is remotely possible that a Kenyan con man created it.

    The third is also a real paper document, created by someone trying to make a fool out of the birthers. It’s based on the real certificate of Jeffrey Bomford of South Australia.

    The fourth is the official Hawaiian state birth certificate for Barack Obama, signed and sealed by the director of vital records.

    The fifth most closely resembles your description, “Facsimile of Hawaii form creating a Birth Certification for a Child Born Out-of-State”; however, there was no such thing as an out of state birth certificate in Hawaii in 1961, so the word “facsimile” is inappropriate. “Fantasy” is a better word.

    I just dropped by to say goodbye. I consider any conceivable relevance of the birther movement to expire on January 20, and I’m going on to other things.

    Arpaio and Zullo’s little press conference will have no more effect than their previous two. Their “proof” is already starting to crumble (more on that soon I hope), and their unwillingness to release any of their forensic reports dooms the effort.

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  2. paraleaglenm Avatar
    paraleaglenm

    First of all, I asked to match the images A through E to the descriptions, not to edit my descriptions. Secondly, the comment requested was on ‘Which document(s) would be evidentiary in a court of law.’

    Your first ‘match’ for A tries to subsume the description under a false pretense implying the image was a collage from an official document. False: The ‘collage’ was created out of ‘art’ ‘layers’ from the Adobe Illustrator ‘histories’ left embedded in the White House PDF. And being ‘Evidentiary’ is a trick question. The White House PDF is NOT EVIDENTIARY as it has been altered and is not an official copy . . . UNLESS it is evidence in court against Obama’s White House for forgery of an official document.

    If they can be validated by a Kenyan court, B and C would be evidentiary in a court of law. You assume there is forgery afoot, which cannot be determined except in the Kenyan court and by experts in the U.S. court that would supervise the Kenyan validation.

    D, if you read the notation at the bottom of the document, it is only Prima Facie Evidence. It is only evidentiary if not disproven by other records. It appears to be Real.

    E is a facsimile, and the theory that legislative history does not include 18-7 in 1961 is out there, but not cited. As a facsimile, it is NOT an official document and would therefore NOT be exempted by the Hearsay rules for official documents. So, another trick question.

    So, move along. We will be trying to undo the damage done by the illegitimately born and elected president, the traitor-in-chief . . . innocent citizens have died and will die because of this travesty.

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  3. Pogue Moran (@PogueMoran) Avatar
    Pogue Moran (@PogueMoran)

    ah lenny I see you’re still letting your mental health problems get the best of you. B and C would never be accepted in any court as there is no provenance to the documents. B was created by a convicted forger and conman and C was created from an Australian Certificate. A PDF isn’t evidentiary to begin with since it’s not the actual document but a scan of one. The paper document that was scanned is what would hold up in court as would the verifications issued by Onaka. Neither Kenyan document would stand up in court. 338-17.8 was created in 1982 so the document created by birthers with that on it would never hold up in court.

    So after all these years you still haven’t learned anything.

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    1. paraleaglenm Avatar
      paraleaglenm

      First of all, I don’t have any ‘mental health’ issues except PTSD. I was tested ;) and I function above the 98th percentile of the general population.
      Secondly, that is what I commented as well concerning B and C. A U.S. court would have to request certification of authenticity from a Kenyan court. This was attempted, but the U.S. court denied the motion. Shame.
      As I admitted, if you had bothered to read, I could not find the legislative history of 18-7 online. I suppose I could try the law library’s section on State Statutes, but I was hoping someone would provide the citation . . . which you have failed to do as well.
      I will stick by my analysis, that the only Evidentiary Value of A is proof that Obama violated Federal law. The ‘short form’ is only “prima facie” and worthless until the two Kenyan documents are verified as to authenticity.
      Actually, the ‘short form’ has some evidentiary value. It was printed out from a database created years after the Obama birth registration. Because the COLB (Certification of Live Birth) lacks witness names and the hospital (or licensed birthing facility), it proves there is no Birth Certificate per se, as the White House tried to foist on us April of 2011. Until you provide, as requested, the legislative history of 18-7, Haw Stat Rev 338-5 defines only two types of birth documentation: 1) a witnessed certificate from a licensed birthing facility, or; 2) an unwitnessed registration created by the Records Department after seeing the live infant and sworn statement of time and place of birth by the mother, a resident of Hawaii.
      My point is, you can’t have both registrations, witnessed and unwitnessed, just one or the other.

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  4. LastGas Avatar
    LastGas

    The State of Hawaii sent verifications of the facts of Obama’s birth directly to Ken Bennett, Arizona secretary of state, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, and a lawyer who filed it in federal court in Taitz v. Mississippi Democrat Party. That’s real evidence. Now where is the evidence that you even have a clue, much less expertise?

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    1. paraleaglenm Avatar
      paraleaglenm

      As the images show there are five birth certificates. The green one second from the bottom is the document Obama issued for his first campaign, mentioned in his first autobiography.
      Anyone can present a live infant to a vital records clerk and get a certificate, it being only a ‘prima facie’ documentation as the actual birth isn’t witnessed. See Haw Stat Rev §338-17.8.
      The two Kenyan official copies were issued to a U.S. citizen who forwarded them to members of congress. Attempts to authenticate them were blocked by a judge, and later Dr. Jerome Corsi was arrested/detained at Kenya’s port of entry.
      The top image is a deconstructed file of the April 27, 2011 document posted on Obama’s White House website to interfere with Zullo’s May 11, 2011 book release date. It was determined almost immediately to be a faked birth certificate created in Adobe Illustrator.
      Apparently, the forger forgot to ‘flatten’ the image file, thus preserving forged elements in what are called ‘art layers.’ I provided this image and my legal research to WorldNetDaily and to Det. Mike Corso, the lead investigator in Sheriff Arpaio’s ‘Posse.’ I still have Zulo’s 1/18/2012 email thanking me for my contribution.
      Finally, according to naturalization law going back to 1790 and the law as understood by the framers who wrote and discussed Article II’s natural born citizen clause, a U.S. citizen father was absolutely required for a presidential candidate.
      Citizenship ‘at birth’ conferred solely by a U.S. citizen mother did not become part of Naturalization law until 1952.
      In addition, ‘citizenship at birth’ by being born in the United States to alien parents’ did not become law until 1898. (The 14th Amendment primarily applied to freed slaves born of stateless fathers. This interpretation is recorded in the Congressional Globe discussions about the 14th Amendment, in the 1898 Wong Kim Ark case, and a supreme court case that along with dicta in Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875))
      During the John McCain presidential campaign a question of eligibility arose because McCain was born on foreign soil, in a Colon, Panama hospital. His candidacy was challenged, but a bipartisan Senate hearing, SR511, concluded that being born to a U.S. citizen father fulfilled the legal intent and letter of the law in the U.S. constitution’s Natural Born Citizenship requirement.
      Regardless of Obama’s ‘place of birth,’ having a Kenyan (Marxist and Muslim) father disqualified him.
      As for your cited court case, it would not survive review by competent judges having subject matter jurisdiction.

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      1. paraleaglenm Avatar
        paraleaglenm

        Obama himself, out of his own mouth, admitted to being born a British citizen. Under ‘operation of naturalization law’ he had dual citizenship, U.S. citizenship from his mother who met conditions required in 8 USC 1408. His British citizenship was maintained under those Mombasa hospital documents . . . Later, under conditions in the Indonesian constitution, he became an Indonesian citizen. Obama regained his U.S. citizenship while attending schools in the United States, fulfilling required residency as stated in U.S. statute.
        Obama becoming president set the nation on its current path of destruction. His pro-Iranian policies and connections may very well be the reason Biden funded Iran with billions for release of prisoners and removing sanctions, billions of dollars that funded the October 7 attack on Israel and the current warfare interfering with Red Sea commerce and killing U.S. soldiers.
        The ‘open borders’ letting in millions of foreign nationals, men of military age from enemy nations, may also be Obama’s work pulling the marionette strings barely allowing Biden to walk or negotiate stairs.

      2. LastGas Avatar
        LastGas

        There are no Mombasa hospital documents. The supposed certificate came from a convicted forger.

        Obama was only a British subject through his father until Kenya became independent, and his subsequent Kenyan citizenship evaporated when he reached age 23 (21 + 2 year grace period.)

        The fundamental problem with all of this argument is that those propounding the foreign nationality issue CEDE THE AUTHORITY TO FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS TO SAY WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. That is facially absurd.

        The claims that Obama ever had Indonesian citizenship, or there was any provision of Indonesian law to make him one were completely debunked over a decade ago. Phil Berg, pleading in Hollister v. Soetoro, just made stuff up.

      3. paraleaglenm Avatar
        paraleaglenm

        I read Phil Berg’s research, his brief in support of his case against Obama’s eligibility. He made one error, and that was misapplying U.S. statute. Because Obama, Sr. was a serial adulterer, his marriage to Dunham was void ab initio. Thus, Obama’s citizenship at birth under 8 USC 1408.
        We can go as granular as you wish, my legal analysis in another blog called ‘A Timeline of Obama’s Citizenships.’
        Nevertheless, the only law you need to know is that not having a U.S. citizen father disqualified Obama under Article II . . . yes, Naturalization/Nationality statutes evolved and were added to over the decades and century, but none of those revisions amended the U.S. Constitution. And, again, the 14th Amendment’s ‘born in the United States’ clause only granted citizenship to children of freed slaves (and Indians taxed). The congress knew this, the 1866 Civil Rights Act made it perfectly clear, and the Supreme Court discussed this in the 1898 Wong Kim Ark case.
        You can ignore the constitution of Indonesia, or as Berg claimed Obama, Sr’s ‘village wedding’ not recognized under international law (although the United Nations formally recognized such weddings, as they are solemnized under Islamic law), but the SIMPLE FACT IN CAPITAL LETTERS IS THE SON OF A KENYAN FATHER CANNOT RUN FOR PRESIDENT . . . AND THE SAME RULES INVALIDATE KAMALA HARRIS’ VICE-PRESIDENCY.
        It is really that simple, and you only have to read Article II, early naturalization laws, John Jay’s letter to George Washington and Hamilton’s disregarded version of Article II to come to the same conclusion. NO US FATHER, NO PRESIDENCY.

      4. LastGas Avatar
        LastGas

        Your idiosyncratic view of the Constitution has never been affirmed by any court or legal scholar. Your claim would not only exclude Obama and Harris, but also Ted Cruz and Hikki Haley, both of whom ran for president and didn’t have U. S. citizen fathers.

        I have a hard time believing that you are really that stupid or that lazy. So why do you still propound this nonsense?

      5. paraleaglenm Avatar
        paraleaglenm

        Read John Jay’s letter to George Washington explaining his choice of ‘natural born’ versus Hamiliton’s ‘native born.’ Compare the 1866 Civil Rights Act to the 14th Amendment that followed it up in 1869.
        Yes, Ted Cruz is NOT eligible to the presidency and it is a great tragedy that he ignored the warnings that would have made a difference in the course of our nation, on the road to ruin thanks to Obama and now Biden/Obama.
        Here is an Opinion piece published in WND that provides the legal basis for Cruz’s ‘citizenship at birth,’ that only happened due to the 1940 INA revised in 1952. The 1940 Act required a 5-year residency for Cruz’s Mother to confer her citizenship. The 1952 revision provided retroactive ‘citizenship at birth.’https://www.wnd.com/2016/02/ted-cruzs-eligibility-tied-to-womens-rights-movement/

        It is disconcerting the cognitive dissonance exhibited by those who think the son of a Muslim-Marxist Kenyan, who was only granted a visa due to a special program introduced by President Kennedy. Indeed, as a Marxist and a Muslim, Obama, Sr. should have been denied visa allocation under 8 USC 1424. In addition, Obama, Sr. almost lost his student visa and matriculation to Harvard because of allegations he committed bigamy, which Sr. denied, lying about his Kenyan wife.
        No U.S. citizen father, no presidency!

        Here is a bit of humor. Back in 1789, and through the unconstitutional Wong Kim Ark decision in 1898, if Obama was born on the steps of Independence Hall, Betsy Ross herself swaddling him in her latest flag, under both U.S. and British laws he would NOT even be a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen. And, to conflate ‘citizenship at birth’ with ‘natural born citizen’ is a serious error in legal reasoning.
        But, SCOTUS has made errors in the past, and will again. Homosexuals are not ‘protected’ under the Equal Protection Clause, sexual perversion and other sex acts are NOT ‘sex’ as written in the 14th Amendment. Soon, the court will be deciding Trump’s eligibility to the presidency based on the insurrection clause, but evidence will reveal that it was the Democrats who invaded the Capitol on January 6th, not Trump or MAGA. This will be explosive when the truth finally pierces the ‘veil of ignorance’ you and your ilk demonstrate criticizing my perfect legal analysis and evidence.

      6. LastGas Avatar
        LastGas

        “Read John Jay’s letter to George Washington explaining his choice of ‘natural born’”

        All Jay said was “not a foreigner.” Guess what? George Washington’s father was born and died a British subject. Are you saying Jay was arguing that Washington was not the sort of person one would want as commander in chief?

        “And, to conflate ‘citizenship at birth’ with ‘natural born citizen’ is a serious error in legal reasoning.”

        And yet Barack Obama was sworn in and served as president for 8 years, and Kamala Harris is service as vice president today. Did it every occur to you that all the courts and legal scholars are correct, and it is you who has the “serious error in legal reasoning?”

        “evidence will reveal that it was the Democrats who invaded the Capitol on January 6th, not Trump or MAGA.”

        “Will reveal?” Crystal ball? Time travel? Read the January 6 committee report and learn something. It’s long, but it is full of pesky facts and evidence. Wake me up when you’ve finished it.

      7. paraleaglenm Avatar
        paraleaglenm

        “Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolved on, any but a natural born Citizen.” The ‘strong check to Foreigners’ addressed Jay’s concern for the highest office in the land open to ‘foreign intrigues.’

        If you actually took the time and care to read the constitution, the first presidents (until Tyler, IIRC) were all sons of British subjects, the fathers becoming citizens ‘at the time of adoption of this constitution.’ When the fathers declared citizenship to the new nation, their children automatically were naturalized.

        As for ‘courts and legal scholars,’ don’t make me laugh. Did you know that birthright citizenship was created in 1898 for the simple excuse that ‘it was nowhere in the constitution or legislated act,’ so the court felt compelled to create it’ Read Chief Justice Fuller’s Dissent to Wong Kim Ark and you will get an education on naturalization law. Read Blackstone, the celebrated ‘go to’ scholar for early American lawyers as the textbook on British Common Law, and even Blackstone interpret the law to provide ‘jus solis,’ or ‘birthright’ citizenship.

        After Republicans gained the House majority, they have been getting evidence. One video proves a Capitol police officer lied, perjured himself, during the trial against the Oath Keepers. Rep. Higgins of LA has the receipts, actual bus lease paperwork, proving hundreds of Antifa were bussed into the Capitol the morning of January 6. Other videos show armed agents disguised as MAGA supporters in the crowd with communication earpieces, and Antifa changing into MAGA garb behind bushes.

        And what POSSIBLE MOTIVE would Trump and MAGA (at the Ellipse 1.5 miles away when Antifa and Ray Epps attacked the first barricade) have to disrupt the congress, where three states were slated to Object to Biden’s electors, fighting FOR TRUMP . . . oh, but the Democrats knew of the Objections and interoffice memos/texts reveal they were planning something weeks in advance. They blocked deployment of National Guard for a reason, so they could attack the police and breach the Capitol, and open the Columbus Doors exactly 10-minutes after the joint session went into recess at 2:29PM. Did you even read the Congressional Record for Jan6?

        The evidence is clear the Democrats planned and executed the TREASONOUS attack on the Capitol, opening the doors and ushering in MAGA supporters who were finally arriving at the Capitol after walking the 1.5 miles from the Ellipse speeches that ended at 1:13PM . . . the attack started at 12:53PM . . .

        So, Mr. PassedGas, try to think clearly for once and abandon the ‘narrative,’ the official Propaganda and consider the FACT that Democrats planned the violent attack on the Capitol.

      8. LastGas Avatar
        LastGas

        There isn’t a word about parentage in Jay’s letter.

        Obama, Haley and Harris aren’t by any stretch of the imagination “foreigners.” You can fight about Cruz if you like.

      9. paraleaglenm Avatar
        paraleaglenm

        Obama was by all accounts and probability born in Kenya, to a Kenyan father. Otherwise, the two Hawaiian 338-17.8 docs wouldn’t be necessary and the forgery unnecessary as well. Why forge/fake a long form Birth Certificate if you have a real one. The Mombasa documents are official, sealed, and signed. Drastic measures, even the arrest of a PhD author, were taken to prevent any court from confirming their authenticity. So, Obama was, indeed, a ‘foreigner,’ of alien citizenship and raised in his early life in an Indonesian Muslim school. When attending college before transferring to Harvard, he stayed in the International House, special dorms for foreign students!

        Kamala was only a citizen at birth thanks to an unconstitutional decision by SCOTUS in 1898, a case that is destroying our nation with illegal aliens abusing that law to create ‘anchor babies’ and ‘daisy-chain’ migration. Law Professor John Eastman wrote an article in complete agreement with those who read Wong Kim Ark, that it was a corruption of jurisprudence. Of coure, Eastman is one of the 19 co-defendants in the corrupt GA RICO case, and liberals in Santa Fe, NM are cheering his possible disbarment. However, that case is slowly circling the drain . . . it may be dismissed altogether.

        In California alone, between 4 and 10 of the state’s electors are solely from illegal aliens counted in the census. That is enough electors to disenfranchise an entire state, or two! SCOTUS fucked that up as well.

        Again, the constitution requires a U.S. citizen father to run for president, or vice-president. That was the law in 1789, in 1790, and for the next 108-years, a U.S. citizen father. Changes in nationality and naturalization law was done unconstitutionally by SCOTUS. The first revisions legally permitting mothers who forfeited citizenship by marrying foreign husbands started in 1922, and revisions continued liberalizing provisions for women to confer U.S. citizenship to ‘foreign’ children in the 1930’s, 40’s, and I mentioned the 1952 INA that created ‘citizenship at birth’ for the foreign-born Ted Cruz. Naturalization Statutes concerning children have been revised over the years, but none of those provisions ‘amended’ the constitution.

        The concept of ‘natural born citizen’ is simple, jus sanguinis, U.S. citizenship conferred by a U.S. citizen father, period. Laws had to become more complex to handle women abandoned or divorced by foreign husbands, ‘foundling’ laws, and really crazy situations like Obama’s mother giving birth to an illegitimate child in a foreign nation . . . Yes, Obama, Jr. was born a bastard.

      10. LastGas Avatar
        LastGas

        “Obama was by all accounts and probability born in Kenya”

        You use that word “all” where you should have said “no.” And please, not the deceptively edited grandmother tape.

        “Why forge/fake a long form Birth Certificate if you have a real one.”

        Well obviously Obama didn’t fake a birth certificate. Indeed, the only forgery came from convicted forger Lucas Smith, and the Bomford spoof certificate from the Obots to punk the birthers.

        Read the Hawaii Department of Health Obama FAQ:

        https://web.archive.org/web/20190124041115/https://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/faq-obama/

        Game over.

      11. paraleaglenm Avatar
        paraleaglenm

        The April 27, 2011 PDF ‘long form’ was a forgery. I am also a photographer and the document falls apart, literally, when opened with Adobe Illustrator. You can see the deconstructed document above with rotated and positioned pieces, some pieces 1-bit Black & White inserted into an 8-bit color working space! Totally forged. Why forge it? To destroy the planned Dr. Corsi book release . . . which is a tort called Intentional Interference with Contract, as well as a federal felony forging an official state document.

        The Lucas docs were never proven to be forgeries. Some stupid assertions were made, but a court of proper jurisdiction was blocked from contacting a Kenyan court to allow actual proof the documents were genuine and official, or not. And Hillary’s state department had Dr. Corsi arrested and detained at Kenyan customs . . . now, why would she do that! To hide the truth.

        In the end, even you would stipulate Obama had an alien father, and under a century plus of law starting in 1789 Obama would not even have been a citizen, let alone a ‘natural born citizen.’ Case closed . . . sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one.

      12. LastGas Avatar
        LastGas

        You may be a photographer, but you’re clueless about high end photocopy machines. As an experiment, a birth certificate facsimile on security paper was scanned by a Xerox WorkCenter 7355 and it had the same layer stuff the White House certificate.

        See:https://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2013/10/25/driving-the-final-nail-into-the-cold-case-posse-investigation-coffinpart-i/

        Driving the final nail into the Cold Case Posse “investigation” coffin–Part II

        Driving the final nail into the Cold Case Posse “investigation” coffin–Part III

        To actually believe still that it was a forgery, you must have been hiding under a rock for over a decade. Zullo was debunked some many times it would make your head spin. A forged birth certificate is a train has left the station, ran off the tracks and crashed into a canyon.

        And don’t forget the other birth certificate: FactCheck.org handled the short form certificate, viewed the raised seal, photographed it close up. Ah, those pesky facts keep raising up their heads.

        The Lucas Smith certificate (that eBay wouldn’t let him sell on their platform) was a laughable forgery. He even spelled the registrar’s name wrong. I mean, how gullible can you be? And to my knowledge, no one has ever presented a birth certificate REMOTELY in the same form of the Lucas Smith forgery. Birth certificates just didn’t look like that in Kenya.

        Yes, Obama’s father was a Citizen of the UK and Colonies (sort of like George Washington’s father). But your interpretation of the law is utterly crackpot.

        The simplest answer is that Obama was born in Hawaii like the Hawaii Department says he was, and he was a legitimate US President like all the courts, Congress and the history books say he was.

      13. paraleaglenm Avatar
        paraleaglenm

        The OCR theory doesn’t explain the ‘art history layers’ that you see in the Adobe Illustrator ‘tool’ sidebar! It also doesn’t consider the 1-bit B&W ‘art’ layered on an 8-bit color layer. He doesn’t show this in his blogs because he is making it all up.
        As for Lucas, the name of the official was claimed to be fake . . . it was a verifiable British name. So, that ‘theory’ was debunked.

        With the 338-17.8 docs, no ‘witness’ signing off at licensed birthing facility, the two Public Record postings of the birth, only required because the Hawaiian document was only a ‘prima facie’ record that had to be made public in case of official challenges to the record.

        Do you have Adobe Illustrator and a copy of the April 27 PDF? If you did, you could reproduce the forgery layers. And, if the forger had just ‘flattened’ the image before saving and naming it, all of those layers, evidence of the fraud, would have been destroyed! OOOOPSY.

      14. LastGas Avatar
        LastGas

        It doesn’t matter if Lucas Smith put a name on his fake birth certificate that existed; it was NOT the name of the hospital administrator. And there were any number of other issues with the fonts, and the glaring fact that in the history of the world, no one has ever produced another certificate that looks REMOTELY like that one.

        Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate looks like other contemporary birth certificates. Smith’s Kenyan birth certificate does not.

        “The OCR theory doesn’t explain the ‘art history layers’ that you see in the Adobe Illustrator ‘tool’ sidebar! It also doesn’t consider the 1-bit B&W ‘art’ layered on an 8-bit color layer. He doesn’t show this in his blogs because he is making it all up”

        The birth certificate was scanned on a Xerox Workcentre 7655 that public records show the White House had. The metadata on the PDF shows the final copy was generated by Mac Preview (Quartz PDF Context) because the document was scanned to a Mac, rotated and saved. The Mac introduced JBIG2 compression and that completes the process. The scan has been verified down to the edge masking proving the two steps. This work was done by Reality Check, Frank Arduini and blogger NBC.

        And no, I don’t have a copy of Illustrator. The question is not what Illustrator shows (we would not disagree on that), but what conclusions can be drawn from it.

        “And, if the forger had just ‘flattened’ the image before saving and naming it, all of those layers, evidence of the fraud, would have been destroyed! OOOOPSY.”

        Folks on your side hold two contradictory opinions (it’s called compartmentalization) that the forger was both brilliant and stupid. But your question is valid — but the answer is that of course this scenario never happened. No one would go through the convoluted process you put forward. And in fact NO ONE on your side has been able to create a forgery that looks like Obama’s real certificate, not even remotely. You can’t do it. Irey couldn’t do it. Zebest, Zullo, and a train of others couldn’t do it.

        If anyone wanted to forge Obama’s birth certificate, all they would need is readily available security paper, a blank birth certificate form they could photocopy onto the paper, an old typewriter, and a raised seal that’s easily purchased. All this bit manipulation of snippets of various birth certificates and contortion or layers, breaking numbers in the middle is insanely complex. You argue for simple explanations, while proposing an impossibly complex alternative conspiracy theory.

        And of course for the adults in the room, refer to the Hawaii DOH FAQ. They are the ones who made the certificate.

      15. paraleaglenm Avatar
        paraleaglenm

        I dug into True the Vote’s continuing legal issues. TTV won the Stacy Abrams case, being sued for intimidation under the NVRA. In more recent news, a federal court decided private parties could not sue under Sec 2 of the NVRA, only federal AG’s. Meanwhile, the headlines about TTV ‘Having No Evidence of Ballot Stuffing’ is contrived and false. TTV is still being harassed and investigated by Raffensperger’s office and the GBI, those entities demanding TTV turn over the evidence, the testimony, and the names of informants. Well, as journalists, they have a right to protect the identities of informers and their methods of investigation! Their attorney made it clear ‘they had nothing to give them,’ not implying there was nothing at all, but they weren’t even going to allow them to infer they possessed the documents they demanded. https://apnews.com/article/georgia-elections-true-vote-ballot-stuffing-199113b47bc2df79c63fdf007cd23115

      16. LastGas Avatar
        LastGas

        What a wild imagination you have! Do you have any concept of HOW MANY MAGA HATS have gone to jail for breaking into the Capitol? Duh. Antifa was warned to stay home and they did. Trump’s motive was simple: Mike Pence refused to defy the Constitution and seat Trump’s fake electors.

        Even so, who stormed the Capitol, even your own absurd rewriting of history, is irrelevant. Trump engaged in insurrection against the Constitution in myriad ways — trying to prevent the votes of the people from being counted and block the peaceful transfer of power. His “perfect phone call” to Georgia trying to pressure the secretary of state to change a SPECIFIC NUMBER OF VOTES so that Trump won. The fake elector scheme. It’s all insurrection against the Constitution as many have powerfully argued in briefs before the Supreme Court. The Georgia indictment lays out all that. And I suppose you haven’t read the federal January 6 indictment either.

        No, I didn’t read the Congressional Record. I stayed up all night and watched it live on C-SPAN.

        See also:

        Click to access 20240126115645084_23-719%20Anderson%20Respondents%20Merits%20Brief.pdf

      17. paraleaglenm Avatar
        paraleaglenm

        You watched it on C-Span . . . related it in comments. So, your recollection is hearsay while my posts were copied from Congressional Record, citing pages and dates.

      18. LastGas Avatar
        LastGas

        Eye witness testimony is not hearsay. BTW, I read the Jan. 6 Report from Congress.

      19. paraleaglenm Avatar
        paraleaglenm

        “Eyewitness testimony” of what?

        I thought I’d share this letter from Rep. Thaddeus McCotter on the Phil Berg case and Natural Born Citizenship. Nothing much to say except Berg tried. As I wrote Berg, Obama was a citizen and his option to reclaim citizenship was provided by statute, which conditions Obama met.

        Rep. McCotter agreed, though, that SCOTUS was the proper venue for determining the letter and intent of the term of art, natural born citizen.
        I have another letter, a congressman from Texas which I haven’t dug up yet.

        From:

        Error! Filename not specified.Congressman Thaddeus McCotter (imami11h@mail.house.gov)

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        Sent:

        Thu 2/05/09 9:30 PM

        To:

        suite_500@msn.com

        Dear Mr. Daneman:

        Thank you for informing me of your concerns regarding President Barack Obama’s citizenship. Your thoughts on this important matter are most welcome and appreciated.

        As you know, the United States Constitution, in Article II, Section I, establishes the principle qualifications an individual must meet to become President of the United States. Specifically, the Constitution states “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.” Additionally, the candidate must be at least thirty-five years of age and have been a resident in the Uni ted States for at least fourteen years.

        On August 21, 2008, Mr. Philip J. Berg, an attorney filed suit against President Barack Obama, alleging he is not eligible for the Office of the President because President Obama lost his United States citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen and naturalized in Indonesia. Further, Berg alleged President Obama followed his mother’s naturalization and failed to take an oath of allegiance when he turned eighteen years old to regain his United States citizenship status. In October of 2008 Pennsylvania Eastern District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick dismissed the lawsuit Berg v. Obama, ruling Mr. Berg lacked standing to bring the case. Thereafter, Berg filed an emergency motion with the United States Third Circuit Court of Appeals, where subsequently, Third Circuit Judge Thomas Ambro denie d the motion. Subsequently, Berg petitioned for a Writ of Certiorari, where if granted, the Supreme Court would review the decision of a lower court. On December 10, 2008 the Supreme Court denied Berg’s petition for an injunction against the seating of the Electoral College. On December 15, 2008, Berg re-filed the application for injunction. Two days later, the petitioner’s appeal was denied without comment by Justice Anthony Kennedy. On December 18, 2008, Berg’s request f or an injunction was re-filed with the Court and was summarily denied on January 21, 2009.

        Recently, on January 20, 2009, Barack Obama was sworn in as our nation’s 44th President. Nevertheless, Berg continues to assert President Obama lost his naturalized citizenship when he became a citizen of Indonesia after moving there as a boy. Similarly, additional lawsuits have been filed requesting the birth certificate of our President.

        Ultimately, under our Constitution the authority to make a ruling on this matter rests with the Supreme Court of the United States. Rest assured, however, I will well remember your concerns regarding this issue during the 111th Congress. Again, thank you for contacting me; and for all you do for our community and our country. Should you have any further comments or questions on this or any other issue, please contact me at the Livonia or Milford district, or Washington, D.C. office.

        I work for you.

        Sincerely,

        Thaddeus G. McCotter
        Member of Congress
        P.S. In an effort to conserve paper and save taxpayer dollars, please subscribe to our email list so we can more efficiently provide you with updates on important issues to the 11th District.

      20. paraleaglenm Avatar
        paraleaglenm

        Jus Sanguinis was the rule. Feudal Serfdom’s ‘jus solis’ was set aside in the 1700’s. This is confirmed by comparing the 1772 British Nationality Act and the First Uniform Naturalization Act of 1790 . . . no jus soli, but from the father, period.
        This was also confirmed in debates/discussion of the 14th Amendment as recorded in the Congressional Globe, the 1866 Civil Rights Act, and in the Wong Kim Ark case, SCOTUS 1898, that said in its holding that because ‘jus soli,’ or ‘place of birth birthright citizenship’ was not in the constitution or statute, then they had the obligation to create it.

  5. Reality Check Avatar
    Reality Check

    ParaleagleNM is a True Believer and no amount of actual evidence will convince him he is wrong. He would rather wallow in his wild and unsubstantiated theories about President Obama’s birth certificate, place of birth, and definition of natural born citizen that no one except crackpots propose. LastGas and I collaborated on experiments to show that a similar document to Obama’s Hawaii LFBC printed on Simpson basket weave security paper would produce a compressed PDF file like the one the White House posted when it was scanned on a Xerox WorkCentre machine.

    Even Mike Zullo and his posse had to abandon the layer theory after they ran their own test on a similar machine. As a last ditch effort before Joe Arpaio left office in December 2016 he invented a brand new theory that the certificate was created using Johanna Ah’Nee’s birth Hawaii certificate. This theory was silly and easily debunked in short order.

    Zullo was so embarrassed to trot out this theory that at his so-called “news conference” he would not even take questions.

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    1. paraleaglenm Avatar
      paraleaglenm

      Law enforcement officers like Det. Zullo and Rep. Higgins (R-LA) are meticulous in their presentation of evidence and findings. Their ‘information’ is not to be mistaken as an indictment; but used by Attorneys General or DA’s to establish the evidence is probable cause to investigate and arrest, and then indict.
      ‘RealitySchlep’ and ‘PassedGas’ say they proved the Detective was ’embarrassed’ and ‘invented new theories.’
      Fact is quite the contrary–If you have access to a copy of Adobe Illustrator and downloaded the White House PDF (file date Apr 27, 2011) the ‘birth certificate’ would open not only showing ‘nine layers’ as described by Zullo’s experts, but (as I mentioned in a previous reply) tool and history panels showing every ‘action’ taken by the forger. If you use Photoshop or Illustrator, the ‘actions’ of the operator are saved in RAM memory (which is why imaging computer work stations require massive RAM) and each tile/panel not only identifies the tool but the specific action, e.g., paste, rotate, move, resize, etc.
      So, the fact the document was forged using ‘elements’ copied from other documents to make a fake birth certificate stares you right in your face.
      As I commented before, if the White House forger had ‘flattened’ the file, all of the disparate elements would have been saved to a single-layer PDF color file, converting the black & white 2-bit ‘pasted’ parts to match the ‘color space,’ and delete the ‘histories’ that were telltale evidence of the compiled fake.
      This is not ‘OPINION’ or ‘true believing,’ but indisputable evidence anyone with a copy of the White House uploaded file and Adobe Illustrator can see for themselves. It is scientific fact and 100% reproducible.
      In the end, the eligibility of Obama has nothing to do with being ‘born in the United States.’ It is a shame that many legislators and jurists, one misstating the law during today’s 14th Amendment Sec 3 Colorado ballot case . . . place of birth has NOTHING to do with presidential eligibility, but the nationality of the father conferred to the child. The principle of law is ‘jus sanguinis.’

      Finally, here is a part of Det. Zullo’s findings published on Kindle.

      “Additionally, the videos demonstrated that the Hawaii Department of Health Registrar’s name stamp and the Registrar’s date stamp were computer-generated images imported from an unknown source into an electronic document, as opposed to actual rubber stamp imprints inked by hand or machine onto a paper document. “The fact that we were able to cast reasonable suspicion on the authenticity of the Registrar stamps is especially disturbing, since these stamp imprints are designed to provide government authentication to the document itself,” Zullo said.” If the Registrar stamps are forgeries, then the document itself is a forgery.” “As I said at the beginning of the investigation,” Arpaio said, “the President can easily put all of this to rest. All he has to do is demand the Hawaii Department of Health release to the American public and to a panel of certified court-authorized forensic examiners all original 1961 paper, microfilm, and computer birth records the Hawaii Department of Health has.” Arpaio further stressed the Hawaii Department of Health needs to provide, as part of the full disclosure, evidence regarding the chain of custody of all Obama birth records, including paper, microfilm, and electronic records, in order to eliminate the possibility that a forger or forgers may have tampered with the birth records. “Absent the authentic Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other credible proof supporting the idea or belief that this President was born in Hawaii, or in the United States for that matter, as he and the White House have consistently asserted,” Arpaio said.”

      Corsi, Jerome R.; Zullo, Michael. A Question of Eligibility: A Law Enforcement Investigation into Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate and His Eligibility to be President . Paperless Publishing LLC. Kindle Edition.

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    2. paraleaglenm Avatar
      paraleaglenm

      There is something called ‘prima facie’ evidence. When Det. Zullo stated ‘the evidence was not ready for trial,’ he was hedging his research and experts’ opinions as reported to his team. After all, all they had to work with was ‘hearsay’ evidence, unofficial documents.

      While contradictors managed to simulate a broken up scan file, the evidence in Illustrator is not just random rotations and 1-bit mixed with 8-bit color ‘parts,’ but actual ‘histories’ describing the actions taken (rotate, move, resize) in the layer histories. This is specific and readable only in Illustrator. It is not vague, but direct proof the document was indeed manipulated in Illustrator.

      If new metadata was found, the expert opined the PDF was opened with another program, ‘Preview,’ and saved.

      This cannot explain away, however, the specific layers and ‘action’ histories recorded in Illustrator.

      Then, there is the four-day delay in registration. The ‘attending’ is not an MD, DO, or Midwife, but ‘Other.’ It was a Vital Records clerk.

      There is a fax version of the short form in which the grandmother’s signature and delayed registration appear, the ‘explanation’ for delayed registration of live birth from Aug 4 DOB to Aug 8 registration was “Birthplace: Kenya; Registered Honolulu HRS 338-17.8 per grandmother.’

      In the law and rules of evidence, a document ‘not the original certified copy’ is NOT exempt from the ‘hearsay rules.’ That means, as Det. Zullo reported, and I paraphrase from an article you cited, ‘the evidence was not ready for court.’

      Finally, while the prima facie evidence caused a stir, as hearsay (none of the documents official product but second-hand copies) Det. Zullo could not professionally make a final determination.

      As I’ve mentioned many times before, as ‘granular’ as one wants to get going down the rabbit hole of birth certificate theories, all involved stipulate to the one fact that Obama’s father was NOT a U.S. citizen, and therefore Obama, Jr. didn’t meet natural born citizen requirements as written in the constitution. His citizenship was ‘by operation of naturalization law,’ and his ‘citizenship at birth’ status was statutory, changes in law that occurred in either the 1940 INA, or as revised in 1952 . . . AND . . . and that’s a BIG ‘and,’ none of those laws revised the constitution and the framers’ understanding of nationality law, that citizenship was devolved by blood inheritance (jus sanguinis) from the father! That fact is confirmed when compared to the British Nationality Act of 1772, the admission of the 1898 Supreme Court declaring there was NO JUS SOLI, or ‘soil birthright citizenship’ in the constitution or statute, and the determination of John McCain’s eligibility in SR511.

      Obama was not eligible to the presidency and neither is Kamala Harris or Nikki Haley. And . . . for good measure, I published an article describing the exact circumstances of Ted Cruz’s birth and the 1952 law that gave him retroactive ‘citizenship at birth.’ So, Cruz is also not eligible.

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  6. LastGas Avatar
    LastGas

    “Jus Sanguinis was the rule. ”

    Pick and choose, take out of context. No court has ever agreed with you.

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    1. paraleaglenm Avatar
      paraleaglenm

      One court being ANKENY v. GOVERNOR OF STATE OF INDIANA (2009). The case was dismissed for standing issues. The Phil Berg case, failure to state a claim. Other cases dismissed under the Political Questions Doctrine.
      In short, the cases never made it to a court of proper jurisdiction, which in the case of Natural Born Citizenship had to be SCOTUS.

      As for Jus Sanguinis, under both British and U.S. law in the 1700’s, and for the next century, citizenship only devolved from the father. Jus Soli was a feudal concept when subjects were serfs, essentially slaves, allegiance forced upon them by the landlord.

      Even the master of British Common law, read by all jurists and attorneys . . . Blackstone . . . did not recognize the Jus Soli. It was created out of whole cloth, unconstitutionally by the Wong Kim Ark court.

      Again, not having a U.S. citizen father disqualified Obama, Cruz, Halley, and Harris.

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      1. LastGas Avatar
        LastGas

        “Again, not having a U.S. citizen father disqualified Obama, Cruz, Halley, and Harris.”

        Somehow Congress missed that (Obama, Harris).

        You’re certainly correct that most courts passed on the Obama question for lack of standing. Apparently no one with standing (like an opponent) thought to raise the question. However, Judge Malihi in Georgia did determine Obama eligible. Federal Judge Gibney said in Tisdale v. Obama:

        “It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens. See, e.g., United States v. Ark [sic meant Wong], 169 U.S. 649, 702 (1898) (‘Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States.’)”

        So who knows the law better — you or a federal judge?

  7. LastGas Avatar
    LastGas

    “Rep. McCotter agreed, though, that SCOTUS was the proper venue for determining the letter and intent of the term of art, natural born citizen.”

    Apparently questions that are, as Judge Gibney said, “well settled” are normally not fodder for the Supreme Court.

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  8. paraleaglenm Avatar
    paraleaglenm

    Ignoratis Terminis Artis, Ignoratur et Ars

    I have dealt with Federal judges and they, like many Americans, can be small-minded and politically-motivated. They are human beings, and often at their worse. I recall Fed. Justice White freeing a Chinese spy . . . I recall what a goddamn federal judge did to me after over a year fighting a case that should have been decided on Summary Judgment!
    I don’t give a flying fuck what these judges said. At least Rep McCotter got it right, the issue was for the Supreme Court.
    The ‘assumption’ of birthplace citizenship was just that, assumed to be common law when even England abandoned the principle in the 1700’s. Calvin’s Case was in the 1600’s and was an obtuse ruling at best, and that was abandoned with feudal society, which was tyrannical at best.
    Again, a joint session of congress researched and heard testimony on the issue and reported their findings in SR511. The father determined natural born citizen, which was a term of art not to be conflated with ‘citizen at birth’ or ‘native born citizen.’ All different things.

    If you want to benefit from my research, here is a good summary of the law with very little drivel on my part. There is a lot of law spanning the centuries. Elk vs Wilkins pretty much settles the matter as understood from 1789 to 1898, but than abrogated in Wong Kim Ark.
    Or, if you wish to remain ignoratur, so you can clink glasses with your fellow Obama-Biden lovers, feel free . . . ignorance is bliss.
    https://paraleaglenm.wordpress.com/2011/01/07/who-is-a-citizen-at-birth-or-a-natural-born-citizen/

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